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Famous past lives

Postby Revolucion_bohemia on Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:14 pm

[align=left](Before start writing about it, i gotta say, i sososososoos love the basics section! :D maybe because i like to train newbies or elaborate ideas or... idk )

Sorry for that, well, now, regarding our concerns:

People talk about "Famous past lives", but i think the term is being a bit abused, and not being used in an accurate way. Why? well, because when someone says FPL they`re referring to a life documented in a book, if that person was Van Gogh, John Lennon or Carl Clauberg (why this last example? at first i wrote "Jack the Ripper" but we actually don`t know anything about him, and i find it hard to find an example of someone considered evil, i could have said Göring or another nazi leader, but they actually were known back then, so well, i bring the piggie Clauberg in) is the same, they all are in the cathegory of Famous past lives... and that should be WRONG.

Let`s take Van Gogh for example, he wasn`t famous during his life, yes, we have tons of info now, but if he wasn`t famous and din`t know fame, then i can make "famous" a non famous life of mine. If i write a book about my life in England, then the BBC finds it interesting and makes a movie about it, kaboom! now i had a FPL. But was my life really famous back then? no. So every life is potentially famous. I know, not every life is famous now anyways, but the person who remembers being Van Gogh will remember as much as someone who remembers being a farmer (only a different job, life, etc. You know what i mean). But they won`t remember fame. He will find info easily than the farmer guy, but for the farmer life we only need some investigation. So, for me, post mortem famous lives are not famous past lives.

Now, let`s take Clauberg, same as Van Gogh, he wasn`t famous or known during his life. Infact, people considered "evil" (except Clauberg, he WAS evil :twisted: ) that were known, were considered evil later, or not by everyone, like, idk, Stalin, he had his supporters, and for that reason also he was famous during his life too, even when he was a bad bug. So , is an infamous post mortem life a famous past life??? Beppo says NO.

And our last one, John Lennon, THAT`S a famous past life, he was famous when he was alive, his reincarnation might remember fame... might feel it. When we talk abut FPL we should be thinking about the Lennons, the Stalins, the Julios Caesars, idk, but people that were FAMOUS. If you remember being Nietzsche you don`t have a FPL, because he was a crazy college teacher back then and nobody knew him!!.

All nice by now but... If i say Nietzsche you all know who i am talking about, but if i say Edward the farmer nobody does, isn`t that being famous then? errr.... mmm... errr... *runs* :shock: well, let`s see, yes, somehow it is, but it doesn`t fit the patterns of famous past lives because he was not famous, i think it should be called just "known past lives" or "pl in books"[/align]
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Postby Fritzsch on Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:39 pm

I'm quite in favor of the distinction being made here between "famous" past lives and "known" past lives. I don't like the idea of someone having a "famous" past life, simply because mentions can be found of them in obscure books.

Now, if they're someone who is well known by the public -- say, Cleopatra, then I'll say that's "famous" even though Cleopatra was a fairly minor ruler in her day. Thoughts?
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Postby Revolucion_bohemia on Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:45 pm

Well, i think all rulers, presidents, dictators, anyone in charge of a country, is famous, no matter if they have many books about them or not, the people back then knew him and treated him diffeerent than the rest of the mortals, so for me all of them would fit in the famous cathegory.
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Postby greygardener on Sat Aug 30, 2008 4:28 am

This is really interesting. I just wanted to comment on something I've noticed about famous lives over the years as related to lives that were famous then as opposed to famous now. I've noticed that people who had really known lives that were famous during their lives are much more adverse to fame in this life. Usually they see the dark side of it and don't want to be famous again or want to convince people of why being famous was horrid. Those who were not famous during their lives but have a life that is famous now have much less of that problem.

I just thought it was an interesting thing.
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Postby Revolucion_bohemia on Sat Aug 30, 2008 9:58 am

True, very true
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Postby Revolucion_bohemia on Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:54 am

I like to write manuals =) so here we go.
If you think you may have a famous past life, be sure to check where you are, the reasons why you believe you are that person. And be careful. We will take George Harrison as our subject/example this evening.

"I think i was George Harrison because i have always liked hindu stuff, Beatles music and i was born also a 25 of february"
ACHTUNG! you`re working without memories and not even with strong factors. Date of birth can be important, but you should check that, once you at least have memories and some validation, otherwise, don`t pay attention to it, it will just confuse you more.

"I think i was George Harrison because i look like him, i speak with a british accent, i have feelings for Paul McCartney, i`m good playing the guitar and i feel a connection with the 60`s"
Again, no memories, until you have some memories consider it archetypal identification.

"I think i was George Harrison because i have all the things mentioned above and i remember being sit in a chair playing the guitar, girls screaming and i saw in dreams a bearded guy that probably was the Maharisihi"
Ok, so you were a guy who liked music, saw a screaming girl and a bearded indian. But we don`t know if George Harrison

"I think i was George Harrison because the things listed above, and i remember talking to John Lennon"
Billy Preston also talked with John Lennon, also was a musician. Think about close people to the Beatles.

"I think i was George Harrison for all the things listed above, and i remember being deported from Germany, travelling to India, singing My Sweet Lord, fighting with Patty Boyd and smoking a lot"

Ok, chances are that you could have been him

Hmmm... if anyone don`t understand what i meant:

Example Nº1: was considering vague general facts
Example Nº2: Was considering similarities and feelings
Example Nº3: Was considering similarities, feelings and vague memories that cannot be validated.
Example Nº4: Was considering the famous people`s relationships, but nothing too personal
Example Nº5: Was considering similarities, feelings, validated memories and personal memories
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